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From FD to Chairman - congratulations Mr Flint

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Interesting times at HSBC on the governance front with the proposed elevation of the current Finance Director and Fellow of CIMA, Douglas Flint to the job of Chairman.  The importance of the role in shaping the future direction of the banking industry cannot be underestimated and it is a testament to Mr Flint's personal standing combined with his knowledge and experience of the industry that the Board of HSBC unanimously considered him the best person for the job.  I'm sure that all CIMA members, students and staff would want to join me in wishing him well. 

It is virtually unheard of for an FD to move up to the chairman's role.  It's actually not that common for a chief executive to do so either - although it had become something of a tradition at HSBC -  and explains the degree of press comment about the fact that the current chief executive, Michael Geoghegan did not get the nod and will leave HSBC at the end of the year.

So HSBC will enter 2011 with both a new chairman and a new chief executive, Stuart Gulliver, currently chief of HSBC's investment bank.  That triggered even more press comment about the fact that yet another 'casino' banker was taking charge following Bob Diamond's appointment as Barclays' CEO.

Let's take a look at this from a governance perspective.  Good governance practice frowns on executives moving up to be chairmen of companies.  You can see why.  Imagine you've just been appointed chief executive - the job you've always dreamed about.  But then, you realise there is a catch.  In the office next door is your predecessor who has been appointed chairman.  That could really cramp your style. 

But good governance practice also recognises that one size doesn't fit all and allows for tailoring governance arrangements to meet individual needs through the 'comply or explain' principle.  So provided you explain why you are doing governance differently and your investors are happy with the explanation, then you have fulfilled your governance obligations.

It appears that the banking sector is one of those where it seems to work better for executives to become chairmen.  As the UK Walker Review of governance in the banking sector observed, banks where the previous CEO became chairman appear to have performed relatively well both over a longer period and during the financial crisis.  The issue seems to be one of maintaining continuity and preserving specialist expertise.  But as ever, it's a case of balance between continuity and benefiting from fresh perspectives.  And that balance will be different in different companies at different times.  That's why you should never reduce governance to a box-ticking exercise.  It needs ongoing thought and judgement. 

Just because HSBC's governance arrangements don't fit 'the norm' doesn't mean to say they won't work!

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[UPDATE: 29/9/10: Douglas Flint has now been confirmed as HSBC Chairman]

CIMA's alumni

I gues you can say that DJF has now joined CIMA's alumni in leaving the 'finance world'.

I was interested in looking at DJF's  'CV'. In all the places I looked his association with CIMA is not stated. Of course he is a Fellow but is it not dissappointing to CIMA's members that it appears he wishes to keep this as a 'secret'?

 

Yours sincerely

Cliff Moggs

PS Is it not refreshing that HSBC has a mind of itself?

Douglas Flint - FCMA

Mr Moggs,

I am not sure where you have been looking for DJF's CV, but on at least two web locations it is stated that Mr Douglas Flint is a Fellow of CIMA and also a member of ICAS. I was not aware of the latter, therefore I prove that I have sighted the locations. It must be noted that his CIMA qualification is mentioned first.

In any case, Mr Moggs we know that DJF is a proud CIMA member, and we can all take pride in that. We should all join in congratulating him rather than look for any shortcomings.

Aubrey Joachim

Immediate Past President CIMA

Where?

My references where both the 'national' press and also HSBC's own press release and random 'google' items. This opportunity has now passed, there is now a new opportunity to see if further 'CV's' will include. For the readership of the 'national' press his membership of CIMA was not stated. Was there any reason for the 'reporter' not to have found out? Best regards Cliff Moggs

Where?

On the executive biography of Mr Flint. Please check on this link.

http://www.hsbc.com/1/PA_1_1_S5/content/assets/newsroom/media_kit/biogs/100223_douglas_flint.pdf

Congrats Mr Flint you've done us proud.

Mr. Douglas Flint is a role model and inspration to all CIMA members, he was profiled in the Financial Management Magazine a few years back. I believe he has not left the Financial Management profession, he has simply taken it to another level.

Disagree

Mohamed, I respectfully disagree with your comments that now as Chairman of HSBC, Douglas Flint he represents the financial management profession.

From his partner days at KPMG through to his number of senior global positions in HSBC has lead to his new appointment. His background is heavily influenced by being a Chartered Accountant and time at Harvard University.

Yes he is also a FCMA, he will also be touted by the ICAS and the alumni of Harvard, not forgetting Glasgow University where he recevied his first degree.

I am sure that these all have had a relative impact.

Best regards

Cliff Moggs 

Douglas Flint and CIMA

Excellent blog post Gillian: as you say, whilst it may not be ‘normal’ procedure, the key truly is preserving specialist expertise, and I think HSBC are to be applauded for doing so.

Mohamed, you are quite correct that Douglas Flint has written in Financial Management magazine, and is also a now a regular contributor to Excellence in Leadership; you will find his most recent article in the March 2010 edition, if you are interested:

Bridge the gap
HSBC group CFO Douglas Flint believes proposed changes to the way fair value is measured in the wake of the financial crisis could have a fundamental economic impact. He speaks to Nigel Ash about making more of existing accounting standards rather than chasing the chimera of regulatory perfection.
http://zviewer.zmags.com/services/DownloadPDF


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Adrian Clifton
Improving CIMA's website group administrator and CIMA web editor
http://community.cimaglobal.com/groups/content

Another Excellence in Leadership article

Hi guys, you might like to know that another interesting article by Douglas can be found here:

http://issuu.com/cimaglobal/docs/ex_in_lead

Happy reading!
Adrian.

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Adrian Clifton
Improving CIMA's website group administrator and CIMA web editor
http://community.cimaglobal.com/groups/content