Hi Mike,
you can do op level and management level together, or in a order you wish. you can pass all 3 exams in one exam session, but it's quite tough work. i couldn't manage 3 exams in one go :)
good luck
Olga
Hi All
I have just registered with CIMA, so am very new to this. I've got exemptions for the entry level, so I probably have to start with the operational level. What I would like to know is; can you do any of the operational papers together with the management papers? Or do you have to finish the operational papers first? Also, if I have to finish E1,F1, P1 first, can you do them all in the same exams?
I also need to get the study material. Where is the best place to get the material?
Your help and advise will be much appreciated.
Mike
Hi Mike,
you can do op level and management level together, or in a order you wish. you can pass all 3 exams in one exam session, but it's quite tough work. i couldn't manage 3 exams in one go :)
good luck
Olga
Welcome aboard. I presume you mean you have exemptions from the Certificate level?
You can take the Managerial and Operational levels in any order you wish, with any amount in one sitting you wish. However, just because you can doesn't mean you should. I have some suggestions, based on my own experience:
1. Take them two at a time. Unless you've got some great rush, this will get you through at a reasonable pace without burning you out. There's no shame in taking one at a time though if that's all you can afford the time for. I'm even skipping a sitting to concentrate on strengthening my work experience.
2. Do not attempt to do a Management level paper before doing it's Operational counterpart. You can do both in the same sitting if you like- I did E1 and E2 in November. The advantage is there's a lot of overlap (especially with the two Es), the disadvantage is that you need a secure grasp on the Operational material before doing Management.
If I were to start again (and didn't have my exemptions from my degree), I'd be tempted to do this:
Sitting 1 (eg May 2011): P1 and F1
Sitting 2 (Nov 2011): P2 and F2
Sitting 3 (May 2012): E1 and E2
Remember that's just my opinion, but it's a perfectly valid way of approaching it.
good luck!
Hi there guys
Thanks for your time and your advise. I will take them on board, and definitely look into it.
Graham, I've seen some comments on other threads, where everyone seemed to think it's better to do the P exams last of the 3. According to your suggestions, you got as first. Why is that? What is your view on this?
Thanks
Oh, btw, does anyone know where I can get the study material for this, at a good price?
There is no perfect order but I suggest finishing with P2 and E2.
I've been told that alot of P2 is relevent in strategic level, so it's good to have it fresh in your mind. Also I don't recommend doing P2 with F2 as I just did, as they are both very tough and F2 is a massive syllabus to learn.
Graham, I've seen some comments on other threads, where everyone seemed to think it's better to do the P exams last of the 3. According to your suggestions, you got as first. Why is that? What is your view on this?
As JanKL says, there is no perfect order. I think the best order for you depends on your background. You said you are exempt from the certificate level- where does this exemption come from?
I was looking at it from having completed the AAT beforehand. A large amount of the F1 and P1 syllabus would be familiar to you. And that which wasn't familiar would have built on topics you already knew some things about. Conversely little or no of the E1 syllabus is on the AAT syllabus.
F1 and (to a lesser extent) P1 are both crunch-heavy topics where you can be secure in reaching the correct answer. E1 is more of a fluff topic- you can make better or worse points in arguing many topics, and it's harder to judge a satisfactory answer.
I was also thinking that E1 and E2 have much stronger overlaps and make a good pair to do together than any other pillar. You could apply the same logic and do these two first rather than last. Especially if you have a broader Business-based degree than the technical-heavy AAT or an Accounting and Finance degree- you might have an easier time on the general management aspects.
All of the above is simply my opinion on a way to approach the course.
In terms of getting the study material for a good price, I'm not so sure. The CIMA official textbooks can easily be found on Amazon and similar, often discounted. That would probably be the cheapest option.
Beyond that, my best suggestion would be to get an employer that wants you to be qualified and make them pay for you to study with BPP/Kaplan!
Hi Mike,
Welcome!
I was also exempt from Certificate level from my degree, I did F1 and P1 together, then E1 and F2 and I am now awaiting results for E2 and P2. I found doing the two E's with the bigger P and F modules quite useful especially as the tuition for E is shorter (and therefore there is less material content) which went well with F2 and P2 because these pillars have more material content than E.
This is just a suggestion, but I like that combination and there was some material overlap between the modules which helped!
As for study - my company sponsor me through college, I study with Kaplan and have found the tuition very helpful! Kaplan even have online courses so you can have the benefits of a classroom session but without having to go into college - it really does depend on what works best for you.
Best of luck!
Mel
Hi guys
Thanks for your insets, I will defo look at these combinations.
Just a quick question:
Mel
Did you actually attend classes? Unfortunately I'm not so lucky to have a company which will sponsor me, but I am looking out for something else. So, in the meantime I will have to pay for myself, which means I will have to do self study, and also try to get study material as cheap as possible. I hope that is possible... :) What is Kaplan btw...?
Graham
What about you? Did you attend classes, or did you do self study?
IF anyone out there can help me with study material, I will be grateful.
Regards
Mike
Mike,
I attend classes at college, I did tuition classes and revision classes with Kaplan. Kaplan is an external training provider so you have specialist tutors and they teach a range of qualifications, including Financial ones such as CIMA, ACCA etc. Another provider is BPP (Kaplan an BPP are the biggest) but there's others out there if you are looking to get tuition. I know a few people who have done self study and it's worked for them. It really does depends how you find it best to study and of course financial considerations as tuition is very expensive if you plan to pay it yourself. That's why a lot of people who aren't sponsored tend to do self study or distance learning.
You can get all the materials Kaplan give you minus the actual lessons through their distance learning option but it's more expensive that say buying off amazon or ebay for example. CIMA also sells all the books you'd need.
Mel
Hi Mel
Thanks for your advise. Can you tell me something: what's the difference between the books from Kaplan and the ones from CIMA...?
Mike
My, so far successful order, has been:
Sitting 1 - E2 + P1
Sitting 2 - P2 + F1
Sitting 3 - F2 + E1
My reasoning was that P2 and F2 run directly from mathematical treatments used in P1 and F1. However E1 and E2 are just rote theoretical learning so can be done independantly. So I concentrated on the managerial paper while linking it with an operational paper
according to my own studying experience suggest the following order.
and it shall be guranteed that there are at least 120 hours on this paper, this is very important issue.
first you can ask yourself how many hours you can arrange for your papers( hours must be guranteed)
possible orders:
1) E1 E2 F1 F2 P1 P2
2) E1 E2 F1 F2
P1 P2
3) P1& P2 &E1
F1 &F2 &E2
4) P1&P2
F1&F2
E1&E2
5) F1
F2
P1
P2
E1
E2
Hi guys
Thanks again for the extra advise.
Lu, I don't quite follow your orders. Could you please explain it a bit better for me?
Thanks
How about the combination of P1 ,F2 with the help of part time Kaplan classes.
I have cleared E1, F1. I am contemplating whether to take P1 and E2 or P1 and F2.
Please advise ..
I have just registered with CIMA, how difficult will it be for me, as i have not studied in 20 years! I have been granted exemptions on the certificates, so am thinking about doing E1 & O1 for May sitting.
Or should i maybe take 1 paper to start with, if so which one
thanks
Alex
hie everyone,
i just registered too and was exempted most of certificate material, like the F1, now i wish to write at least one in operational level in may since um self studying.
what do you think and how do i pay for my exemptions coz its not reflected in my statement.
thnx
Hi Pearl,
If your financial statement is not showing a fee for your exemptions, then please email cima.contact@cimaglobal.com for clarification, as ordinarily you will not have been awarded exemptions unless a fee has been applied to your account. I would recommend that you do this as soon as possible, as if the exemptions have not been correctly applied to your account then this will affect your ability to enter into the May exams.
I hope this helps
Kind Regards
Beth
CIMAsphere Moderator
Hi
I have enrolled for CIMA this January , and was planning to sit for May 2011. However due to professional commitments time is a huge constraint.
Is 2 months enough to prepare for E1 or F1 or Both
Guys who have already passed can help me as they know the difficulty level
Neel
Hi
Can someone help
present F1 is previously P7
what about E1 and P1?
I am trying to look for past exam papers with answers in the net.
Hi Gaad,
E1 used to be P4 and P1 was P1. You can find out more about transition arrangements on the website, just click on the link:
http://www.cimaglobal.com/Students/2010-professional-qualification/Transition-to-2010-syllabus/
Pass exam papers and examiners' answers are available to download from your My CIMA account within 'Student Information'.
I hope this helps!
Elisabeth
CIMASphere moderator